Wednesday, August 15, 2007

i really should be punished for linking to this guy, but here goes...

link.

read this carefully, being mindful that this individual put bread on the table for years by being "creative" in how he framed and presented unpopular ideas.  there are a few things to note straightaway.

observation one: holding up gregg easterbrook as an authority on much of anything is the first sign of a fraudulent argument.  convincing evidence for the prior statement.  and more.  and more

observation two: focus carefully on the following:

As conservatives would expect, these gains were largely the result of technology -- the catalytic converter in automobiles and reformulated gasoline -- and not by pedaling to work or undoing the Industrial Revolution. Smog was reduced mainly by innovation, not austerity.

translation: dirty hippies on bikes and communes are wrong, wrong, wrong.  if they could put down their bongs long enough to see what was happening in the real world, they'd wake up and spend their time focusing on chemical engineering and taking jobs with oil and coal companies.  because that's where people make a difference.  d'uh.  this is a classic view of the market solving problems.  when the problem becomes significant, it becomes advantageous to make changes so the market will respond.  all hail the invisible hand, sing the praises of the market.  but we're soon presented with this...

But only the government can create the incentives for Americans to work on this problem with urgency and seriousness.

i don't think this gerson fellow is serious about being a conservative.  at least conservatives like grover norquist are honest: saying that they want to strangle the shrunken government in the bathtub.  government ain't the answer, it's part of the problem.  so are we talking about aconservative answer to this problem or a market-based economic answer to this problem?

As in the case of fighting Los Angeles smog, this type of government regulation would create economic incentives for the development of new technologies -- incentives that do not exist in the free market.

he wants the problem solved, and he wants market forces that don't exist in the current market to solve the problem.  so someone needs to create a force to effect change. 

But the problem is much more likely to be solved if someone has a direct economic interest in solving it.

and we're back to the invisible hand again.  look, i'll make this easy.  there's a problem.  gas is expensive.  pollution is abundant.  congestion on roads is abyssmal with broad estimates that it costs drivers in big cities around $1000 a year and drivers in more rural areas $200 a year.  we're already at a point where a solution is needed and there are string effects on individuals that should be generating market pressure for solutions.  but it's not happening

we have an expression where i work that has a surprising amount of wisdom in it: "if it was easy, someone would have already done it".  if there was a cheap, easy solution, no one doubts it would have been implemented.  but there isn't.  if gerson had taken the time to look at existing government expenditures along these lines, i doubt he'd come to the conclusion that more market-based incentives are necessary as there are numerous ones in place.

maybe it's time to consider really alternative approaches.  if one wishes to stick with the market, a more consistent proposal would be to price gasoline such that it reflects the true costs of it's production, storage, transport, monitoring and use.  inclusion of these types of externalities has been attempted on large scales before with some success.  however, there are powerful political andbusiness forces which make this a difficult sell here in the states.  an alternative would be remediate the problem and charge the people causing the problems (air polluters) directly.  make every road a toll road.  put meters on smokestacks the same way we have meters on our gas and electric lines coming into our house so that we can charge for output (industrial waste) in addition to input.

or we could just get more people to ride bikes.  you want to know something nice about that idea?  it's proven to work.  there's no r+d budget.  there's no policy papers.  give  a bike to everybody in the united states capable of riding.  we might solve the obesity and health care crisis at the same time.  we could use the extra money to prop up social security and pay down the national debt.  there, all national probelms solved.  you're welcome.

-posted by scott

8/15/2007 9:02:54 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)  #    Disclaimer  |  Comments [2]  | 
8/15/2007 10:42:41 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
A lot of this comes down to the way people view how the future path of the economy should fall. Considering our country is run by bohemoths of the business world it is obvious which way we are headed. Big business wants big profits, big growth/consumption/free travel(/even congestion and pollution it could be argued are all good for big business; more money and opportunity for them) lead to big profits. Our country goes where the money is at.

The bicycle is not a big money maker; it can be purchased and operated at a tiny fraction of the cost of the automobile so why should anyone support it.

On the other hand, who actually really cares that we're fat? Fat and unhealthy Americans mean higher medical bills, more crash diet fads/weight loss strategies (aka easy money makers) and in the end more money in big companies' pockets and higher economic growth for our country.

If we weren't so hell bent on creating higher economic growth and appeasing huge corporations something like this might be more of a possibility.
8/15/2007 10:04:13 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
Rebutting your arguments in order, Scott:
- Ad hominem. That's not an argument, it's an insult. I agree Easterbrook is often wrong, but his analysis is often useful as he normally tries to look at things a different way to get at them better. "Easterbrook argues that as long as producing pollution is a free good -- without cost to the polluter -- there is little economic incentive to produce new methods to restrict it." What exactly is wrong with that? Holy smokes, that seems almost self evident. Naah, forget it, we don't like Easterbrook so we'll just insult him and move on, ignoring his argument...

- Oil, gas and hydro strangling coal as a means of transportation and residential heating has *surely* had an enormous effect on air quality improvements, as has regulation of existing fossil fuel burners - catalytic converters for cars & prime movers, and analogous technology ('scrubbers') for coal & gas powered industrial plants. (Yes, air quality has improved tremendously since mid-century, by almost any measure, as a result of regulation *and* market forces, they aren't independent variables - scrubbers are a big industry for example, but that market wouldn't exist without the Clean Air Act, and societal forces - consumers and voters - demanding cleaner air).

- Gerson isn't really a conservative, any more than David Broder. He's a conventional wisdom guy which makes it sort of stunning that he'd even think about quoting either Easterbrook brother.

- It isn't necessarily conservative to insist that government be strangled. Burkeans would argue that there needs to be good government. Classical liberal 'conservatives' would argue that there needs to be enough government to protect the rights of individuals. Paternalist conservatives would argue that there needs to be a lot of government to look after wayward folk. Only a small subset of radical libertarians - the disciples of Rothbard, mainly - want government scuttled, and frankly most of the other libertarians find the Rothbardians (or Randians for that matter, who never quite got that Roark was a fictional character) to be insufferable. On the other hand, many Chicago School conservative/libertarian thinkers - Bork & Scalia among them, fewer of the pure economists - believe that government can serve a useful purpose by remedying market deficiencies, of which there are many. Markets are bad, for instance, at solving problems that belong to everyone but no one (tragedy of the commons, anyone?) It's a strawman to insist that Grover Norquist is the True Keeper of the Flame, in the same way it would be silly for me to insist that Ralph Nader is the guy who defines neo liberalism.

>>>however, there are powerful political andbusiness forces which make this a difficult sell here in the states

- Aha. Now you make a good argument that I buy. You know how electric light rail was killed off in LA? General Motors gave free buses to the city, but the city had to trade in the rail cars to earn the buses. General Motors has no interest in people riding $300 bicycles, they want them to drive expensive cars. It's not just "big business" because big business isn't 10 fat guys in dinner jackets and top hats like the little Monopoly guy sitting in a back room, it's also anybody with an interest in general material prosperity. We want people to drive cars, because it generates a lot of work to make a car, and it makes a lot of money, not just for the fat cats but for pension funds and indviduals with 401(k) plans and so forth, yep the oil companies profit but so does the local gas station owner, the mechanic, the insurance company...

I think government nudging to get people to ride bikes is really smart. Open the bike lanes (or even "semi" lanes that run alongside regular traffic), encourage bike-friendly businesses, make a bike used for commuting at least once a week tax deductible, fund studies on how to make these new mixed use developments bike & ped friendly and more liveable generally (kind of like how Energy Star was stood up) and go from there. I don't think you can dictate how people will live, as Hayek points out people tend to spontaneously organize efficient solutions, and big gubmint solutions, imposed centrally, are usually inefficient and rejected. A concerted campaign to sell the idea of less impactful transportation, however, coupled with incentives, is probably the way to go to change the culture and get people to want to ride. You think Trek and Electra and Giant are going to produce relatively cheap bikes to meet that need, if the government starts trying to convince people it's a good idea, and people start asking for it? Gosh, that sounds like a combined government/market solution. I think it also avoids the coercion problem that a lot of conservatives and libertarians worry about.

One other thing - gas isn't expensive, by any historical standard. It's cheap compared to European prices, it's cheap compared to 1973 or 1967 or 1940 in inflation-adjusted dollars. Expensive gas might help the obesity epidemic a bit, but without some incentives to get people off their butts, it will only help because people will have to eat less in order to be able to fill up their car.
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